Contact problems

Table Tennis Strokes and Technique

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Ardak Mirzakhmedov

Ardak Mirzakhmedov Asked 2 years ago

Hi coaches!

When I practice topspin or during the game, i often miss the ball . It happens when I try to brush the ball and when the ball is faster. But it never happens if i hit without any brushing movement. What is your suggestions?


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario Answered 2 years ago

Hi Ardak,

The brushing contact is by its nature more risky because you are hitting the ball with less of the rubber.

I suggest you vary between flat hitting and brushing contacts.  Start by hitting with a flat contact and then slowly move to a finer brushing contact.  If you start to miss the ball then move back to a flatter contact.  Slowly you will start to get the feel of the brushing.

The other tip is to make sure you are watching the ball carefully. this will help you to track the flight of the ball and therefore give you a better chance of making the contact that you are looking for.


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Ardak Mirzakhmedov

Ardak Mirzakhmedov Posted 2 years ago

Thank you coach! 

I can brush the ball with flat bat. It is not very spinny and  its curve is not good. But there is no missing problems with that. Since there is no enough curve, it is not stable. I think that is not correct. Because in most videos people do topspin by closed bat. 

Should I continue improve topspin like that? or I should slowly try to close the bat during contact?


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 2 years ago

Slowly try to close the bat on contact and this will improve.  It may take time, but persevere.


Ardak Mirzakhmedov

Ardak Mirzakhmedov Posted 2 years ago

Thank you! 

 


Johan B

Johan B Posted 2 years ago

You could try to brush and hit the ball firmly at the same time... You can hit a really spinny fast shot if you let the ball sink into the sponge, but you're not likely to miss the ball completely as you do with a really thin contact


Ardak Mirzakhmedov

Ardak Mirzakhmedov Posted 2 years ago

Thank you very much Johan!

I was always brushing the ball with open bat without missing the ball. Yes, it is fast and spinny, but it doesn't do enough curve.


Johan B

Johan B Posted 2 years ago

Relax your arm and grip just a little bit (the arm accelerates even if you don't force it), then tighten the grip a bit as your wrist whips through the ball.. if that makes any sense.. That's how I feel when I hit a really good shot anyway :) I guess the relaxation helps you to convert more of the power into spin?

To improve your brushing contact I find it very useful to have someone topspin at you and you block, then you try to add more and more topspin to your block until you're maxed out, then add power until you're pretty much counter topspinning the ball during it's rising phase. Since your training partner is providing the ball with speed and spin, you can focus completely on the transaction relaxation, the brushing and the angle of your blade. Obviously, the more power you begin to add yourself, the more accurate you need to be.

 

(Am I making any sense, Alois?)


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 2 years ago

Sounds reasonable Johan. I like the feel of increasing the spin and speed on your block.  This is a really good way to get the feel for topspin.


Ardak Mirzakhmedov

Ardak Mirzakhmedov Posted 1 month ago

Thank you, coach and Johan B! Your suggestions are just awesome! I am still applying your suggestions!!! 


mopa9000 bokholef fouad

mopa9000 bokholef fouad Posted 3 weeks ago

When I practice topspin or during the game, i often miss the ball . It happens when I try to brush the ball and when the ball is faster. But it never happens if i hit without any brushing movement. What is your suggestions?

 


D K

D K Posted 3 weeks ago

Ardak,this is majorly a matter of practise I would say.

In reaction to Johan's comment,yes,this thing can be useful,but I do not think this is limited to playing against topspin.
I myself learned the brushing contact aiming against a push.
It is a bit harder in the sense that if you do not do the brush properly,you will not get the stroke on the table,unless you have extreme spinreading skills and can smack through the spin.

Also,Johan, "You can hit a really spinny fast shot if you let the ball sink into the sponge"....
Well,you can impart a spin this way,if you have an especially soft and thick rubber,these rubbers support sucha stroke best.
However,I would not try to compare the spin againsta good brushed spin.

Oh,and also,mopa and Ardak,check whether you are low on your legs enough.
I noticed that I miss more when I am too high.
Or too far from the table.
Or check whether your arm swing is a straight line.
Some players tend to have a curving swing.
This can cause mising too.

Oh and Johan,you were talking abotu relaxing the arm and tightening it just for the contact itself.
I have read this is the approach CHinese or overally professional players use.
This is said to maximize your swing speed.
How much power is transferred to speed is defined by the angle of contact,or in other words,how finely do you brush the ball.

Am I right Alois?



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