Long pimples types

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Jhon Santeliz

Jhon Santeliz Asked 1 month ago

      Happy afternoon, I would like to know if you could help me find some long shins that suit my type of game, I explain that when I started this wonderful sport a few years ago I used antitop, so over the years I adapted this type of game but using long pimples.My problem is that I always use the long pimples of Nitakku Lonfrict, this type of long pimples was special for me since it absorbed the attacker's blow in a slow and controlled (The block is my greatest forte) way as the antitop does and I could receive the services with an easy refund regardless of the effect it came with, but the rubber is no longer on the market.

Of course, I also use the long pimples to chop at moderate distances, I would like to know what kind of long pimples I can use that allow me to do all this, now I have some but I feel uncomfortable since I do not have control over these movements, being these also long pimples, especially to receive services. or the specifications to take into account to find something that I am used to doing, I really do not care much about attacking with this type of rubber. Thanks in advance, attentive to your comments. Greetings.


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario Answered 1 month ago

Hi Jhon,

I will leave this one to the equipment experts. Hopefully some comments will help you. 


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D K

D K Posted 1 month ago

Jhon,so if I understood well,you mostly use backhand block/chopblock,shovel push etc while occassionally chopping at mid-range?


D K

D K Posted 1 month ago

Maybe try to watch this player,the one in black-white clothes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZKbTjSbBjE

Does this resemble your playing style?


Jhon Santeliz

Jhon Santeliz Posted 1 month ago

Yes, that player has a style very similar to mine, I like it, although my way of pushing the ball is different, it's like a fencing touch and I love that, because my goal when pushing the ball is to unbalance my opponent leaving him in an uncomfortable situation with the ball almost to his body, I have noticed that the pores that he previously used were extremely soft, long and fine(OX), they allowed me to push with a force that came to do as a type of attack and what I miss the most is returning the services with ease since the effects were almost insignificant and returned as if nothing.


Jhon Santeliz

Jhon Santeliz Posted 1 month ago

Now that I've seen the video again, if it's definitely my type of game, the variation would be that I also go halfway to chop sometimes.


D K

D K Posted 1 month ago

Thus,you could be probably able to use similar,gripless long pimples rubbers as this player does. He uses OX Palio CK 531 A rubber,which is also quite cheap. For such a style,OX is a must. Of course,you could try OX versions of Victas longpips (formerly TSP) or Butterfly. I have also seen that Dr. Neubauer and Der Materialspezialist produce lots of various disruptive longpips,but I do not have direct experience with them. The abovementioned Palio rubber has really hard and slidy pips,which allows for great reversal. For OX important note: what blade are you using? The OX rubbers often greatly depend on blade speed and I do not know the speed of Lonfrict. 

Also,as I read that Lonfrict has grippy tops,maybe you could also try Victas P1/P4 or Butterfly Feint Long III or Feint Soft in OX version,since they do have grippy tops,whereas Palio,used by the player in the video,is a gripless rubber,being one of the closest legal rubbers to now-forbidden frictionless longpips.



Jhon Santeliz

Jhon Santeliz Posted 1 month ago

What do you think of the  feint long II? A friend offered to lend me that rubber in trial mode and it's OX, I use a defensive handle called Scorna by Butterfly. Thank you very much for your recommendations right now I'll start to investigate those rubbers. These rubber bands allow me to have control over the return of services? Now I use a 755 but I don't like it as it's too spin sensitive.


D K

D K Posted 1 month ago

It is surely worth trying.

Butterfly Feint Long II has been used across generations among professional long pimple players along with TCP Curl P1R,now sold as Victas Curl P1V (name changed,rubber remained).

If you have the option to try it,surely use the chance.
I do not have experience with 755,according to reviews it does not look well too much...but I have never even heard about this rubber before.

Regarding the return of services,generally the spin sensitivity grows with growing friction,that is directly related. But the truth is that although longpips can make returning services easier,they cannot make EFFECTIVELY returning services easier. The true ability to receive serves lies within the player.
Palio is the least spin-sensitive rubber among those I mentioned. Butterfly's longpips are all rather grippy in my opinion,but maybe it will suit you. As far as I read,even Lonfrict is said to be a high grip rubber,so who knows.
TSP,or nowadays Victas longpips ... well,P1R(P1V) is moderately grippy,rather hard,P4 Chop (P4V) are very grippy,very soft,allowing even for inverted-like looping when new, but they also have P2,P3 rubbers,which are said to be rather blocking types,but I do not have direct experience with them.
Regarding Dr. Neubauer and Der Materialspezialist,these companies are directly focused on all types of pips,antispins and other "junk" rubbers,and they produce at least 30 different longpips rubbers which I am inexperienced with.

Scorna blade is said to be defensive,though I have no more details,as it seems to be out of stock. Though, if it is a slow blade,it should give great control.
The rubber will be therefore rather slow I think... Note that the player in the video is using actually an offensive blade.


Jhon Santeliz

Jhon Santeliz Posted 1 month ago

Thank you very much, I will take into account all your advice and try the Feint Long II, when I do I will let you know my experience with it. Sorry for asking you another question, I would like to know if you have tried spin lord blitzschlag and what you can tell me about this rubber.


D K

D K Posted 1 month ago

I do not have direct experience with Spinlord rubbers,they are rather rare here. According to official descriptions it is rather slow rubber with larger space between pips,implying that this is rather close range longpips. I think this company  can be third into the party wirh Neubauer and Materialspezialist, also producing larger amount of various pips. But as I said,I havent even played against them. This particular rubber is even completely inaccessible at my place.



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