Antispin vs Long Pips

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Last updated 7 years ago

Darcy Graves

Darcy Graves Asked 7 years ago

Hi,

I am somewhat new to the more professional scene and I have been using antispin (Yasaka Antipower) on my backhand. However at a recent competition, due to my more defensive chopping style, I was advised by multiple people to start using long pips on backhand. I enjoy the ability to return nearly any serve served to me. Should I change to long pips on my backhand? How much difference in returning does it have compared to antispin and how should I adjust if I do change?

Cheers 

Darcy


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario Answered 7 years ago

Hi Darcy,

I think changing to the long pimples is a good idea.

It will give you a few more options with the backhand.  It will still be relatively easy to return the spin serves.

Give it a try and let me know how it feels.


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david j

david j Posted 7 years ago

Are there even any pro players left that play with anti spin rubbers? Seems like long pips is just straight up better


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 7 years ago

Hi David,

I think you are right. I can't think of any highly world tanked played that pay with Anti.


Darcy Graves

Darcy Graves Posted 7 years ago

 thanks for responding,

what type of long pips would you advise I should use considering my playstyle is defensive chopping away form the table

Cheers


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 7 years ago

I don't know specific pimples but something with a thin sponge, say around 1mm.


david j

david j Posted 7 years ago

Apparently the butterfly long pips are really great, i know that a lot of top players use them too, especially the Feint Long II.

They're not as expensive as Butterfly Tenergy, either. Quite affordable


D K

D K Posted 7 years ago

As far as antispin,there is a high ranked female player that uses antispin,but I do not know her name.
Among male players,there is a young player that represents Luxembourg,Luka Mladenovic,who uses Der Materialspezialist Transformer Antispin rubber.


As for long pimples,there is also TSP Curl P1-R longpips rubber,which can be considered equal to Butterfly longpips.


Haiduc Dragoș

Haiduc Dragoș Posted 7 years ago

Joo Sae Hyuk uses TSP Curl P1-R, right?


Conrad Young

Conrad Young Posted 7 years ago

I have quite a bit of experience using long pips and antispin rubbers. There are many many different kinds of both. I know a coach who is successful as a chopper with Yasaka AntiPower. Can you tell me what level you are playing now, and what level you are aspiring to? Also, why did others recommend that you change?


Ujjal Chatterjee

Ujjal Chatterjee Posted 7 years ago

The long pimple rubber has no friction with the ball and hence does not change the direction of the spin.

Will you please explain as what happens when a spinning ball hits / touches an anti-spin rubber? Or what is the main difference between an Anti-Spin and Long Pimpled rubber 


D K

D K Posted 7 years ago

Antispin has a bit stronger reversal due to having no friction.
Despite what you are saying,Ujjal,frictionless longpips exist,but most of them are illegal now.
Most of today used legal longpips have some amount of friction and their reversal effect is caused by different means.


jorge aranciaga

jorge aranciaga Posted 7 years ago

Hola alois...seria interesante que el video de respuesta lo hicieras libre...gracias

 

 


kathy mckelvey

kathy mckelvey Posted 7 years ago

My game has improved using long pips. I can always return most spins with my backhand except  some of the the side spins, then I have to use forehand to make sure the opponents ball stays on the table!! 


Ujjal Chatterjee

Ujjal Chatterjee Posted 7 years ago

Thank you DK for your views.


Ujjal Chatterjee

Ujjal Chatterjee Posted 7 years ago

Dear Alois,

Request you to put your views on the differences between Anti-Spin and Long pimpled rubber.

Thanks.


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 7 years ago

There really isn't much difference.  You can generate a little more spin with some long pips but there are also anti spin rubbers that are a mixture of anti and normal that you can generate some spin but still get the anti effect of returning serve.


Ujjal Chatterjee

Ujjal Chatterjee Posted 7 years ago

Dear Alois,

Thank you so much for the clarification.smile 



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