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Counter a Slow Spinny Topspin

Table Tennis Strokes & Techniques

It can be difficult to know how to deal with a slow spinny topspin. Although the ball may be slow, the topspin makes it hard to return effectively. This lesson presents 3 options of how to counter such a ball.

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archit verma

archit verma , thought...

on the 14-Aug-2012 12:24:12 AM

nice video


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 14-Aug-2012 07:15:05 AM

Thanks Archit.


anirudh verma

anirudh verma , thought...

on the 01-Oct-2012 05:30:45 PM

these vedios are nice but most of the vedios are premium


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 01-Oct-2012 11:23:20 PM

At the moment we have hundreds of free lessons on our site.  Try to work your way through these lessons and learn as much as you can from them.  At a later stage you may want to sign up to the Premium memberships and get the extra value out of the site.


Kiran Uchil

Kiran Uchil , thought...

on the 14-Oct-2012 06:53:05 PM

there is no option to download this video


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 14-Oct-2012 08:14:41 PM

For Premium members there is a link below the lesson for you to download the video.


alberto behrens

alberto behrens , thought...

on the 03-Jan-2013 02:29:43 PM

Great video PingSkills.


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 03-Jan-2013 05:56:16 PM

Thanks Manuel...


Jimmy Sanchez

Jimmy Sanchez , thought...

on the 18-Mar-2013 09:41:57 AM

terrific, three lessons in one video, nice !


Petr Dočekal

Petr Dočekal , thought...

on the 26-Apr-2013 12:59:59 AM

Great! I am now better than before :) thank you very much, PingSkills! :)


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 26-Apr-2013 04:23:50 AM

Thanks Jimmy and Petr.  Glad to know it helps.


Manfred Rolfsmeier

Manfred Rolfsmeier , thought...

on the 04-May-2013 09:57:12 PM

Thanks Alois, very helpful.


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 05-May-2013 05:21:38 AM

Hi Manfred, have you been able to make the stroke effectively?


Manfred Rolfsmeier

Manfred Rolfsmeier , thought...

on the 05-May-2013 07:33:14 AM

Hi Alois,

it works occasionally but for me the difficulty is to keep my arm and wrist soft and relaxed. That seems to be a lifetime challenge. Furthermore I still fight with gravity, a little overweight and the tricks of physics ;-) So keep up your inspiring lessons I might succeed some day.

 


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 05-May-2013 07:55:24 AM

Keeping relaxed is a problem for many.  Keep working on it by keeping focus on it during your strokes.

Don't worry... gravity is over rated.


martinand bernard

martinand bernard , thought...

on the 20-Feb-2014 06:23:49 PM

premium ok but in french the translate is not very correct it's better in english but hard fot me to understand


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 20-Feb-2014 09:22:21 PM

Thanks for that feedback Martinand.  We use Google Translate only.


Archel Taneka

Archel Taneka , thought...

on the 18-Apr-2014 04:17:33 PM

Hi Alois,

The second option, punching the ball is similar to smash isn't it?


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 18-Apr-2014 05:45:34 PM

Not really.  It is a firm block.


Kaustubh Kulkarni

Kaustubh Kulkarni , thought...

on the 23-Oct-2014 04:04:37 PM

 Very good video. I had many problems to counter such topspins, but now I can counter them easily. I find the soft block useful for me. Thanks for the great video.


Jean Balthazar

Jean Balthazar , thought...

on the 11-Jan-2016 03:49:17 AM

Hi there,

This may not be the most appropriate place to post this question, but I couldn't find any other video better related. Feel free to move it where it would belong.

The question is: when you're the attacker, you have made the slow spinny topspin, it turned out to be a little too high and/or too short, and your opponent punchblocks it back at you, preferably in your crossover area. How do you deal with this fast flat and heavy ball while you're just recovering from your rather large topspin movement? Blocking mostly ends up in the net, as there is little to no topspin on the ball, and other responses seem to require more time than available.

Thanks for your advice.


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 11-Jan-2016 08:53:45 AM

Hi Jean,

This can be a tricky situation.

First focus on being balanced through the first slow skinny topspin.  This will help with recovery.  Then on the next ball make a short topspin action.  So it is about as big as a block but instead of coming through flat, have a short lifting action to get the ball up.  The ball will feel heavy because they have put some speed on it so the short lifting action will help.


Jean Balthazar

Jean Balthazar , thought...

on the 11-Jan-2016 09:01:51 AM

Will try this. Thanks.


Salvatore Arpaia

Salvatore Arpaia , thought...

on the 12-Jan-2016 07:01:19 AM

Alois, I've noticed that recently the videos available in this section come with subtitles in my own language. While this may help you to get more audience in a foreign country, I must warn you that the translation is rather laughable (it's either made by someone who is not familiar with table tennis or some authomatic translators) and this doesn't look very professional to me. Hope this is an useful warning for you guys. 


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 12-Jan-2016 07:06:59 AM

Hi Salvatore,

Yes, thank you for your feedback.  We tried Google translate to do some translations and we have received that feedback.  I guess we should almost take them down as they are pretty bad.


Jean Balthazar

Jean Balthazar , thought...

on the 12-Jan-2016 08:56:18 AM

My favourite blooper in terms of the poor auto-translate into French was the word "Bat", which got translated by... well "Bat", but not like the racquet... like the animal ! :o)))) This gives sentences like "Hit the ball hard and fast with an open bat" a rather surreal flavour...


Steve Gargaro

Steve Gargaro , thought...

on the 01-Mar-2016 10:46:48 PM

Hi guys,

Very useful, I wil get into some practice routines to hone these techniques.

Cheers,

Steve.

 

 


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 02-Mar-2016 07:56:03 AM

Let us know how you get on Steve.  They are useful skills in a match situation.


Saral Kumar

Saral Kumar , thought...

on the 27-Apr-2016 05:33:55 PM

Alois, you mentioned that you should keep you hand and wrist nice and soft (1:30) to act like a cushion for the spin and speed on the ball. Since the grip is lose, should you feel the bat/paddle wiggle slightly in your hand?


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 28-Apr-2016 05:11:22 AM

Hi Saral,

I am not sure if it is a wiggle but yes it should be really relaxed in your hand.  It needs to remain in contact with your hand though.


lawrence harvey

lawrence harvey , a premium member said...

on the 04-May-2016 02:30:42 PM

I like the video Alois, I was hoping you could share some tips on how to approach the slow skinny top spin with equal sidespin component. i frequently miss the ball because of he sidespin, but if I wait for the sidespin to "unravel" the ball drops so low I really can't do much but make a pretty lame return over the net. This type of slow top side spin is now used a lot by players who are good at playing balls from below the table, and it really throws me off quite often


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 05-May-2016 02:48:22 PM

Hi Lawrence,

I think if you can take the ball early before it has had too much time to curve it would be best.  Also make sure your contact on the ball is fast and brushing to get the ball spinning in the direction you want it to.  If you brush the ball slowly the sidespin will take effect.

Let me know how that goes.