Tilting the bat backspin pendulum serve

Table Tennis Serving

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Yaron Cohen-Tal

Yaron Cohen-Tal Asked 5 years ago

Hi,

I'm trying to learn the pendulum serve, which seems so complex and with so many combinations of weird movements. I was watching your video "Pendulum Serve" and it contains many shots of Jeff doing the backspin pendulum serve, so I thought I'll just watch it several times and try to imitate it. But then follows many shots of Alois doing the backspin pendulum serve, and it doesn't look quite the same at all (and I don't just mean because Alois is left-handed...). It seems like, as Jeff hits the ball, he tilts the bat significantly so that it almost faces the wall that's behind his side of the table. However, when Alois does (what's supposed to be) the same serve, I didn't see that happening at all, not even slightly. So it left me confused as to how I should go about trying the serve and who of you 2 I should try to imitate...


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario Answered 5 years ago

Hi Yaron,

If you watch the video you will notice that at the point of contact both of our bats are basically the same with a flat angle.

After the contact Jeff turns his bat more backwards and I keep my bat moving forward not he same plane.

Both of these are fine, the most important part is the angle of your racket on contact.


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Yaron Cohen-Tal

Yaron Cohen-Tal Posted 5 years ago

Hi Alois,

Certainly it would be much simpler to do it like you did, keeping the bat on the same plane. So why did Jeff tilt his bat? Certainly there must be some advantage, as it makes the movement of the bat much harder.


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 5 years ago

He does this to add deception to the serve.  It is mite difficult to tell the amount of spin.


Yaron Cohen-Tal

Yaron Cohen-Tal Posted 5 years ago

Hi,

That makes sense. However I do wonder if it also helps add more spin? Obviously what happens after the ball leaves the racket won't affect the ball, but it seems to me that part of the tilt starts even just before he hits the ball.


Yaron Cohen-Tal

Yaron Cohen-Tal Posted 5 years ago

Hi Alois,

 

Any thoughts about my last comment?


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 5 years ago

Hi Yaron,

Sorry I missed that one. It doesn't really help the amount of spin.  It is easier to keep the bat angle constant for maximum spin.


Yaron Cohen-Tal

Yaron Cohen-Tal Posted 5 years ago

Thanks



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