strange behaviour of tensor short pimples

Table Tennis Match Strategy

Last updated 13 years ago

Andrew Pape

Andrew Pape Asked 13 years ago

Hi Alois,

I took your advice and tried playing with short pimples on my forehand. I tried XIOM "tensor" short pimples (2mm) (STYX - SP).  This combination of tensor + short pimples seems new.

This rubber is the fastest I've ever used but after playing against my practice partner, and competing at the club, I have found some strange effects.

1) when I hit with my practice partner, he gets one or two forehands on, and then the next ball just dies and drops off his bat. Neither of us knows why, as I've kept playing the same flat counter-hitting.

2) when I've played competition, I have found that sometimes I can topspin the ball well, even from a distance, but other times the rubber doesn't seem to grip the ball, and I put it into the net. I feel as though I'm playing the same shot each time. When I've played far weaker players, they have gotten close because of my mistakes with the pimples, when otherwise they would be beaten under 10. Against better players, I have played much better, at least as well as when using inverted.

3) when I've been practicing loops at home against backspin, I have found the rubber consistent, and have usually got the loops on. It's just disheartening playing comp and not knowing whether I can clear the net.

4) the rubber has a high throw, so I have trouble keeping the pushes low. When I first competed with the new rubber, I popped up balls and my opponent killed them. But yesterday, when I flipped the bat to play backhands with the new rubber, I hit them all into the net, which seems to indicate a low throw angle. My normal pimpled backhand rubber has a low throw, but I still clear the net with it much more easily than with the new rubber.

The rubber is excellent for smashing. I'm much more consistent at smashing with it than with inverted rubber.

I think I'm playing too much of an inverted type of game with the pimples, and hope to be more of a flat hitter, especially as I don't know what's going to happen when I play a topspin shot.

I know that many pimpled rubbers have a knuckle-ball effect or cause the ball to wobble. My pimples are short, however, and should play consistently if I do. They are spinny for serves,  behaving as expected with slightly less spin than with inverted.

I watched a video of Miao Miao playing, as she uses short pimples. I noticed that she still had similar trouble with her rubbers: some of her loops would go into the net, and others would fly off the table.

I guess you haven't tried out the particular type of pimples I'm using, but I hope you have some ideas. Any help appreciated.

Cheers,

Andrew.


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario Answered 13 years ago

Hi Andrew,

The pimples can seem inconsistent.  You have a smaller margin for error with the pimples because you are not generating as much topspin on the ball.

The pimples can react differently against heavy topspin ball as well.  The ball will feel like it drops off your bat because the pimples don't cope with the spin. I have seen this happen to Miao on many occasions.  I find with Miao she needs to hit a lot of balls and be totally confident in her stroke for the forehand to work well.  As soon as she has been away from training for a while or has any doubt about herself, she makes a lot more errors than usual on the forehand side.

Short pimples need a lot of training because you don;t have the margin for error on them.  They are really good for a flat open game.  Perhaps starting with a more open rally would help you.

Give yourself a bit of time to adjust to them.  Then if you still are having difficulties, you can always go back to inverted rubber. 


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Andrew Pape

Andrew Pape Posted 13 years ago

Hi Alois,

thanks for your informative answer. Yesterday I practiced flat-hitting with the new pimples. I played better and better practicing against the robot. I increased the ball frequency to give me a good workout. The practice was worth it, as I played comp today and won a match with two fast forehand kills. I decided not to try topspinning. When I played the flat forehands, the rubber was consistent.

I've been using slower pimples on the backhand for a few years, but still suffered the problem you mentioned: the ball dies from a top/side-spin serve. I noticed the effect a while ago, and a coach said to flip the return upwards with the wrist to stop the ball dying. It was tricky today because the opponent serves illegally, not throwing the ball up, and suddenly  the ball would appear in front of me, not giving me time to flip  the ball upwards. The ball would just drop dead on the pimples. The same player wins against loopers because his no-toss serves give them no time to swing. Today, I decided to stand back and chop the service return, then move forwards and get into the rally. That did the trick.

I'll persevere with the fast new pimples. The rubber is from a respectable company, and can't be faulty. I did notice a couple of points that might cause some of the strange effects. First, the pimples are spaced far apart than the old pimples (on backhand). So, I'd get less friction with the ball. Second, the new pimples seem a bit longer than the old ones. They aren't as long as medium pimples. And yet I still get a lot of spin on serves. The friction might be worse than with the old pimples, but the sponge might be generating spin.

Cheers,

Andrew.


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