Knowing your opponent fast

Table Tennis Match Strategy

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eugene lu

eugene lu Asked 6 years ago

When I play someone I never played before, I often don't know their playing style nor used to playing them. Today, I beat a player 3-2. I was actually trailing 0-2. 

In a real match, I would've lost to him in a 3 set match. So how can I know and get used to his style in the early parts of the match?


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario Answered 6 years ago

Hi Eugene,

You need to be exploring in the first few points to see what is working for you.  Try a few different serves and positioning of shots.  Also try to watch them play in a previous match or training session to get a bit of a feel for how they play.


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Jean Balthazar

Jean Balthazar Posted 6 years ago

One simple and obvious thing, that not everybody does though, is to ask your opponent to have a look at his bat before you start playing. At least you will know if they use "funny rubbers" (anti-spin, short, medium or long pips) and which side (color) it is. Not so importantly, you can also see if they have a very fast or a more controled bat.


eugene lu

eugene lu Posted 6 years ago

 I don't think that helps too much at the level here. Almost everyone uses smooth rubbers and seldom pimples. And it wouldn't help if I seen it if I don't know the effects. I'm not a equipment expert


Jeff Plumb

Jeff Plumb from PingSkills Posted 6 years ago

@Jean - yes good point. I think this is something you should always do when playing a new opponent.


D K

D K Posted 6 years ago

Regarding this:is this normal when I have problems when my opponent plays with certain types of inverted rubbers?
I am just asking because I have great problem with Acuda users.

 


Jean Balthazar

Jean Balthazar Posted 6 years ago

Hi D K,

Some inverted rubbers can generate more spin than others, some are faster than others, some have different throw angles, but these are only minor differences that you should be able to adapt to. Are you sure it's really the rubber that causes those shots that don't suit you? Or do you happen to know a couple of players who have a playing style that doesn't suit you and who happen to use Acuda rubbers? Have you played any of them when they used different rubbers and did the problem then disappear?


D K

D K Posted 6 years ago

Iam not perfectly sure if the rubber only causes the problem,but the fact is that I have problem with Acuda users because they are seemingly much more invulnerable to my spins.
I have only once tried playing with someone both with and without Acuda rubbers.

That player has normally Acuda on his backhand and Donic BlueFire on forehand.
We practised chop-to loop (forehand to forehand)
When he played with his Bluefire forehand,he had problems,lifted my chop with heavy topspin,being unable to play fast stroke.
Then,he twiddled,started using Acuda on forehand and suddenly I was getting much faster and flatter strokes.
I also noticed that he was using much more opened bat with BlueFire than with the Acudas.
Yes,it was one player,but this is my only experience "same player-different rubber".

Of course it can also be that Acuda users have usually Rosskopf-type style.
From all ACuda users I know,I am rarely able to prevent them from flat hit.
I feel like playing against thick sponge shortpips when countering Acudas sometimes.


Jean Balthazar

Jean Balthazar Posted 6 years ago

Well there is a whole range of BlueFire and Acuda rubbers (I don't know them in details and whether or not they all share the same topsheet, but at least they both come in different varieties of sponge hardnesses). Often players tend to use softer sponges on their backhands, and softer sponges can "grab" the ball a bit more and thus help you to lift heavy backspin. So I'm not saying this is what happened to you with that one guy who turned his bat to use the Acuda instead of the BlueFire, but it could be that he used a hard sponge Bluefire (the hardest would be the M1) and a soft sponge Acuda (the softest would be the S3), and that this helped him lifting your backspin. I'm wondering about the flatter shots you're talking about though. Maybe the Acuda has a lower throw angle than the Bluefire, I don't know.


D K

D K Posted 6 years ago

WHo knows.
Actually,he was using Acuda S1 Turbo and Bluefire JP 01.
Both are medium hardness I think.
But as I said,I am not sure.
All Acuda users I have ever played use shortpips strategy (they play with as little spin as possible)
(PS: if you want to discuss the topic more,please use rather my email "great-polis@seznam.cz"...I do not want to spam another question anymore)


Mert Aykan

Mert Aykan Posted 5 years ago

Thank you Guys a lot! I always had this problem. Variation and looking where the opponent has his or her problems. Because of me trying just to play my own style (faster topspins on FH and BH),I almost have nothing when it comes to variation. Again, thanks a lot :)


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 5 years ago

It is a pleasure Mert.  Always nice to be able to help.



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