Backhand topspin key points

Table Tennis Strokes and Technique

Last updated 15 years ago

Gerard McCarthy Unknown

Gerard McCarthy Unknown Asked 16 years ago

Hi PingSkill Coaches,

I've been comparing the start position and the body movement during the backhand topspins of Persson, Waldner, Samsonov, Kreanga, KongLingui and WangLiqin from training footage. Most seemed to start the bat at knee to mid-thigh height, although WangLiqin and Samsonov often began at shin height off underspin shots. Most started with their bats at around 30 to 45 degree angles from the horizontal, so their bats were very closed. KongLingui and Kreanga often had their bats parallel with the ground and Kreanga sometimes had it angled backwards or at -10 degrees to the horizontal. At contact with the ball most had their bats closed at about 45 to 60 degrees from the horizontal. To achieve this change from 0 degrees, Kreanga and KongLingui rotated their lower arms from the elbow before starting the main part of their stroke. They both kept their wrist bent back fully, ready to release it on striking through the ball for maximum wrist action at contact. Persson was the best at keeping the low sitting position with the upper body hardly moving. Kreanga was also very good at maintaining balance, but initiated his shots with a large shoulder turn, sometimes up to 45 degrees at the waist from the square on position, but kept a very steady head position throughout. Waldner tended to bob up and down, with the angle between his legs and upper torso increasing as he pushed up through the stroke, straitening his body. This upward movement was even more pronounced when he used maximum power, lifting both feet just off the ground. KongLingui was similar to Persson off block shots, maintaining a seated position, as his arm swung forwards, but off push or chop, his bat swung more upwards and so his head tended to lift upwards and backwards as his body straightened towards the vertical. Samsonov was similar to this off chop. WangLiqin had the most upper body movement, with loss of balance and feet movement when playing off chop. His upper body would move from leaning forwards to vertical or even just leaning backwards, with his left foot slipping forwards as he lost good balance.

So what are the key points to concentrate on for intermediate players?
What range of start positions, hand positions and upper body movements are good practice?
Looking forward to seeing all the finer points demonstrated in a video from you!

Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario Answered 16 years ago

Hi Gerard,

There are some excellent observations.

The start position of the bat in general should be at knee height.  If there is more backspin it may be better to start with your bat even lower to generate more lift as you have observed with Samsonov and Wang Liqin.

The starting angle of your bat can change as you become more proficient with the strokes.  For intermediate players I think you should still be reasonably constant through your stroke for more consistency.  As you get more advanced, you can start to add the extreme flourishes of Kreanga.

As far as body position is concerned I think the staedy body is the way to go.  There are differences with players such as Waldner because of his uncanny abilities.  As you observed Kogn Linghui is probably the master of balance.

Again when you are talking about playing against chop there are more extremes to generate enough lift.  You also have more time therefore balance can be regained in time for the next stroke against chop so you can be a little more exagerrated with your strokes. 

The wrist cocked back can be used by intermediate players to start to generate more speed and spin with the backhand.

Thanks for your observations and I hope that this makes a little more sense of them. 


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Gerard McCarthy Unknown

Gerard McCarthy Unknown Posted 15 years ago

Thanks Alois,

This does explain the variations I saw, in the video, very well.



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