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Learn the effects of using normal rubber, short pimples, long pimples and anti spin. This is an introduction that shows how much spin each type of rubber can generate and how a spinning ball reacts when hit with each type of rubber.

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Rawan Mouhandes

Rawan Mouhandes thought...

on the 27-Jun-2012 02:38:58 AM

Oh my God! I have learned it completely different ...
So now I can not know what I am using
Coach told me that pimples are unti spin so now i lost

there is another thing that : How can I differentiate between long pimples and short ones ? just to know wt's my bat type ?


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 27-Jun-2012 08:06:23 AM

Hi Rawan,

If you rub the pimples and then bend then they are long pimples.  If they don't bend and are quite flat then they are short.


Rawan Mouhandes

Rawan Mouhandes thought...

on the 28-Jun-2012 09:03:14 PM

thanks a lot


Chase Cassady

Chase Cassady thought...

on the 12-Jul-2012 04:23:44 AM
I really like this video. I am a young player and I am just now starting to compete with players who are at regional to state level. Before this video I knew almost nothing about pimples and anti spin rubbers. Now I know what they do and why people use them. Great video!
Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 12-Jul-2012 07:29:39 AM

Glad to help Chase.


Abdullah hashmi

Abdullah hashmi thought...

on the 23-Jul-2012 06:29:53 AM

Ooh that's nice.thanks alot for that basic and most important information.


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 23-Jul-2012 07:08:39 AM

No problems Abdullah


Aasim Showkat

Aasim Showkat thought...

on the 29-Jul-2012 04:56:31 AM

for short pimples, can we use usuall rubber, by pasting it upside down?


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 29-Jul-2012 09:42:31 PM

Hi Aasim,

Not that easy.  You are better to just get a ready made pimple rubber.


Aasim Showkat

Aasim Showkat thought...

on the 30-Jul-2012 08:41:31 PM

hahahahahhahaha.........thanks


Umberto Bisotti

Umberto Bisotti thought...

on the 31-Jul-2012 12:54:59 AM
Hi Alois,
 
I don't understand the physics difference between the normal rubber and the anti-spin rubber.

Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 31-Jul-2012 06:39:02 AM

Hi Umberto,

There is no friction on the anti spin rubber so the ball doesn't grip on to it and spin off like it does with the normal rubber.


Umberto Bisotti

Umberto Bisotti thought...

on the 31-Jul-2012 05:37:48 PM

So, what is the difference?


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 31-Jul-2012 07:26:34 PM

When the rubber is gripping the ball it will grip and spin the ball.


Rey Gomez

Rey Gomez thought...

on the 20-Aug-2012 10:48:23 PM

Alois, which one do you use?


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 21-Aug-2012 05:25:49 AM

Both Jeff and I use XIOM Vega Pro rubber on both sides.


warren ibarra

warren ibarra thought...

on the 23-Oct-2012 12:22:51 AM

can i ask some questions?

 


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 23-Oct-2012 06:40:48 AM

Yes you can..


Jonathan Huynh

Jonathan Huynh thought...

on the 09-Nov-2012 06:30:45 PM

Is anti spin like a hard bat buttwitch sponge? Also


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 09-Nov-2012 08:47:17 PM

I can be similar.  The main thing is that you can't generate spin with it and can counter spin a little easier because the ball doesn't grip into the rubber.


utkarsh agarwal

utkarsh agarwal thought...

on the 09-Nov-2012 10:29:38 PM

which type of rubber joo se hyuk uses for blocking?

 


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 09-Nov-2012 10:31:38 PM

I am not sure about the brand of rubber but he uses a long pimple on the backhand.  He doesn't really block much with it though, it is more of a Backhand Chop action like we show you in the link.


Jonathan Huynh

Jonathan Huynh thought...

on the 10-Nov-2012 08:31:49 PM

would it be hard to play spin based strokes?


Jeff Plumb

Jeff Plumb from PingSkills said...

on the 10-Nov-2012 09:17:22 PM

Hi Jonathan,

You can't generate your own spin with long pimples so it's not good for spin based strokes. You wouldn't play loops with it for example. However it is very good for chopping which is why Joo Se Hyuk uses it on his backhand.


Rohan Rurik

Rohan Rurik thought...

on the 11-Nov-2012 04:47:30 AM

What is the effect of anti spin on an opponent?  Does the game get easier for them?


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 11-Nov-2012 07:53:32 AM

Anti spin is easier for them to control spin with.  However they can't generate their own spin.  The main difficulty with playing against anti spin is that it is different to inverted rubber.  Because you don't get a chance to play against it as often it takes a while to understand and adjust to the different way the ball reacts.


Jonathan Huynh

Jonathan Huynh thought...

on the 26-Nov-2012 07:21:14 PM

i have two questions.

1. Is worn out inverted rubber the same as anti spin

2. Is worn out rubber still reative to spin?


Jeff Plumb

Jeff Plumb from PingSkills said...

on the 26-Nov-2012 09:13:19 PM

Hi Jonathan,

Once the rubber has worn out it will be like anti-spin. And once a rubber is worn out, the spin on a ball will have much less effect on the rubber.


Jonathan Huynh

Jonathan Huynh thought...

on the 29-Nov-2012 05:32:56 PM

also, if i wack the ball with the ant spin, would it have different spin or the same spin?


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 29-Nov-2012 09:34:21 PM

If you wack it it will have no spin.


Jonathan Huynh

Jonathan Huynh thought...

on the 06-Dec-2012 07:22:04 PM

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


Gerardo Gomez

Gerardo Gomez thought...

on the 25-Dec-2012 01:10:34 PM

Nice Video!


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 26-Dec-2012 08:41:04 AM

Thanks Gerardo.


Kevin Berard

Kevin Berard thought...

on the 10-Jan-2013 03:06:13 AM

i have a question and what is pimple in?

 


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 10-Jan-2013 11:23:27 AM

Pimple in is just the flat surfaced rubber that you see most of the time.  If you look closely at it you will see that there are inverted pimples under the flat rubber surface which help give the rubber its speed and spin.


ganesh burra

ganesh burra thought...

on the 26-Jan-2013 04:32:20 AM

I have seen a rubber with some uniform holes (rather depressions) in it at a local club. What might be it?


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 26-Jan-2013 07:56:20 AM

I am not sure.  It may be the Cornilleau hobby bats.  Did it look like the whole bat was moulded.


ganesh burra

ganesh burra thought...

on the 27-Jan-2013 04:58:41 AM

Did not observe that bat too keenly,just a casual glance  and it resemble that of  a Golf ball.I will get to know that an post it here.

By the way can people play without Rubber at all?. I mean is it permitted and did that ever happen.


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 27-Jan-2013 07:39:29 AM

Thanks Ganesh.  Officially you are not allowed to hit the ball with a side that has no rubber.  You can have one side without rubber but you just aren't allowed to hit the ball with that side.


sandeep yammu

sandeep yammu thought...

on the 31-Jan-2013 03:21:34 AM

hi sir am sandeep frm india..., am using GKI offensive XX...it's gud for affensive but it's not get much spin...nw i decided to change the rubber....,wich one is best for gud spin in GKI category...i hope u reply sir....


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 31-Jan-2013 05:39:00 AM

I don't know much about the GKI category.  Try Mark V, it will give you good spin to work with.


Mariano Rodriguez

Mariano Rodriguez thought...

on the 31-Jan-2013 02:58:43 PM

A question: if you go to a tournament , can you realize if your rival is playing with short or long pimples easily? Is there any trick to find it out?


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 31-Jan-2013 05:41:15 PM

Hi Mariano,

Eventually you will be able to tell by the way the ball sounds off their bat.  However before you play someone they are obliged to show you their racket.  This usually happens when the umpire is deciding who is serving etc.  Take this opportunity to check out their rubber to see what it is like. You aren't allowed to hit with it but you can look at it.

Then in the warm up try to hit a few balls to the rubber you are unsure of and get a bit of a feel for it.


ganesh burra

ganesh burra thought...

on the 09-Feb-2013 06:21:42 PM

Hi Alois,


1.Can I clean the rubber with a cotton swab dipped in spirit/alcohol

2.Can I add a rubber grip to my bat handle

3.If the ball touches the bat handle and somehow lands on my opponents side is it still in play?

4.Hit a topspin smash on my serve?

5.Hit the ball with the bat vertically on my serve (like the do in tennis?)


One final question is since TT is a fast sport was there any decision review system in any of the tournaments in which you or your students played?

On general lines I ask if practicing with old 38 mm ball a good idea so that we can prepare against more spin?


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 09-Feb-2013 09:07:57 PM

Hi Ganesh,

You certainly got a lot of questions in there.

You can clean you rubber with the swab.  Don't use it too often though, it may effect the rubber.

You can add a rubber grip if it feels more comfortable for you.

If the ball touched the handle and lands in it is a good shot.

Not sure about the topspin smash on your serve.  It is difficult to do this and still land it on your side first.

You can serve with the bat vertical.  It is called a tomahawk serve.

It is best to train with 40mm balls.  There is a slight difference in the bounce.


ganesh burra

ganesh burra thought...

on the 10-Feb-2013 02:50:47 AM

Thanks Alois for giving me a patient ear !

By the way can you suggest me some cheap 40 mm balls with which I can practice.  By the way I used Shield balls once but they were horrible .Hence I am currently using stag -3 star but feel them a bit expensive. So can you suggest some cheap and good ones?


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 10-Feb-2013 05:28:57 AM

Hi Ganesh,

You are right the Shield balls are no good for practicing with.

I like the Yasaka Training balls.  The Butterfly training ball is also good.


ganesh burra

ganesh burra thought...

on the 09-Mar-2013 05:52:35 AM

Hi Alois,

            Is there any difference between Red and Black rubber of the same make? Because I saw somewhere that Red rubber costs slightly more. Also I came to hear that light application of oil on rubber surface and letting it soak overnight would improve tackiness of rubber ( a term new to me). Also I wonder if such an application of oil is legal at all.


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 09-Mar-2013 07:28:44 AM

Hi Ganesh,

There is no difference in performance.  Red should not cost any more than black.

I don't recommend putting oil on the rubber.  I am not convinced it will improve tackiness and will effect the surface of the rubber.  It is also not legal.


ganesh burra

ganesh burra thought...

on the 09-Mar-2013 09:55:02 PM

Thanks I won't apply oil based on your word.


Juri Sokolov

Juri Sokolov thought...

on the 19-Mar-2013 01:07:37 AM

It needs also say that speed depends on rubber?


Mohammad Hassan

Mohammad Hassan thought...

on the 07-Apr-2013 06:33:26 AM

Thanks aloiis and Jeff that helped me a a lot 


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 07-Apr-2013 06:35:12 AM

Good to hear that Mohammad.



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