How to do a short fast serve

Mayo Mayo

Mayo Mayo

Last updated on 02-Apr-2013 05:05:17 PM

If you hit the ball faster you'll get more spin but how do you keep it short and still make it bounce twice on the table for the 3rd ball attack?
Alois Rosario

and Alois Rosario said...

Hi Mayo,

The key is brushing the ball thinner.

The faster you brush the ball the more spin it will get but the thinner the contact the less distance it will travel.

That is why a fast thin contact is important.  However it also means it is a more difficult skill to master. 

Here's a video to answer the question...

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Mayo Mayo

Mayo Mayo commented...

on the 08-Oct-2011 11:57:14 AM
Thinner as in a short follow through ?
Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 08-Oct-2011 07:11:31 PM
Thinner means to touch the ball less.  So a completely flat contact would be to smash the ball, a thin contact is the opposite where you are only just touching the edge of the ball.
Mayo Mayo

Mayo Mayo commented...

on the 21-Oct-2011 01:51:36 PM
Oo i see.. what is the best way to learn this ?
Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 21-Oct-2011 06:10:58 PM

Try stepping away from the table and getting the ball to come back towards you after you hit it.

If the ball is coming back or curving then you are brushing the ball.  Just keep having a try at it away from the table because you don't have the restriction of hitting the ball on the table.  Have a good swing at it and don't worry if you miss the ball completely.  In fact it probably means you are starting to get the idea if you are missing the ball because you are trying for a thin contact.


Mayo Mayo

Mayo Mayo commented...

on the 22-Oct-2011 08:27:29 AM
its funny you mentioned if i miss the ball , becuz i was going to say i keep on missing , the timing is off. i have the spin away from the table but once i try the serve , i either miss the ball or hit the ball real high.
Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 22-Oct-2011 09:31:32 PM
Keep moving away from the table and then back to the table.  Eventually you will start to feel more comfortable.
Mayo Mayo

Mayo Mayo commented...

on the 02-Nov-2011 11:35:41 AM
Thanks for the Video
mohammad panahi

mohammad panahi commented...

on the 03-Nov-2011 12:50:33 AM

Hi dear Mr alois

i saw your video about how can we do a short faster serve exactly it was the question which i wanted to asked but fortunately it was asked by mayo. By the watching your video a could take me answer and i will try it during the playing. thank you so much. 

 

bye


Gaurav Simha

Gaurav Simha commented...

on the 03-Nov-2011 04:16:19 AM
@Alois Rosario : Did you partially answer my question about the ma lin serve ?
Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 03-Nov-2011 08:04:17 AM
Hi Gaurav, Let me know which question it was and I will check it out.
Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 03-Nov-2011 08:13:13 AM

Hi Mohammad,

It is great that these sorts of questions can help so many players. 


Jeff Plumb

Jeff Plumb from PingSkills said...

on the 03-Nov-2011 11:18:44 AM
@Gaurav Simha yes this does partially answer the question about the Ma Lin serve. The Ma Lin serve question has got a lot of votes though so we'll probably still turn this into it's own video answer!
julian gil

julian gil commented...

on the 03-Nov-2011 11:30:06 AM
as you say jeff, ma lin serve us superb, i cannot understand the amount of spin he inflicts into the ball and  the soft he hits it so the ball goes really really short but with a huge amount of spin, that is the result of years of practice, i ve been trying the last 4 months to master a nice backspin short serve, i can serve short with some spin, but im not even close to get the amount of spin ma lin puts into the ball
Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 03-Nov-2011 02:26:58 PM

Keep working on it Julian.  Ma Lin has a few years of practice on you.

It will just keep getting better and better. 


julian gil

julian gil commented...

on the 03-Nov-2011 02:40:02 PM
thank you coach, ill keep practicing on it, a few years, he has just played table tennis since he was like 5 years now he is 31, if i need something ill come here thank you again.
Mayo Mayo

Mayo Mayo commented...

on the 05-Nov-2011 11:11:29 AM

Gaurav Simha

Gaurav Simha commented...

on the 05-Nov-2011 11:52:25 PM
Yeah ! This is the serve i'm talking about !
Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 06-Nov-2011 07:24:35 AM

Hey Gaurav,

That is a great serve that almost dies when it hits the table because of the amount of backspin.  The ball is really low over the net as well allowing it to go short.


julian gil

julian gil commented...

on the 06-Nov-2011 07:27:50 AM
what a serve, the amount of backspin is unbelievable, but zhang yike is able to answer that, i think it was also his mistake, the tryed to loop the ball so late. i dont know for sure
Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 06-Nov-2011 07:34:10 AM
Yes he didn't read the length of the serve at all but I think there must have been a bit more spin on it.  It may also have been a slightly lower bounce than normal.
Ardak Mirzakhmedov

Ardak Mirzakhmedov commented...

on the 01-Apr-2013 06:38:50 PM

Hi coaches! Mayo Mayo have uploaded the video above. Is Mayo Mayo one of the admins of this site? Or anyone can upload videos ?

 


Jeff Plumb

Jeff Plumb from PingSkills said...

on the 01-Apr-2013 08:05:32 PM

Hi Ardak,

When I saw the YouTube link, I modified it to show the video directly.


Ardak Mirzakhmedov

Ardak Mirzakhmedov commented...

on the 02-Apr-2013 05:05:17 PM

Hi, coaches!

Thanks, I understand. I asked it because it will be great chance to beginners, if we can upload some videos and ask if it is correct or incorrect stroke.....


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