Corkscrew Serve

Serving

Ji-Soo Woo
Ji-Soo Woo Asked 16 years ago

Hi

What exactly is a corkscrew serve and how do you serve it?

Thanks

Ji-Soo


Alois Rosario
Alois Rosario Answered 16 years ago

Good question.  It is not a term I use.  After extensive research (On YouTube) I think all it is is a sidespin serve which makes the ball move around like a corkscrew.  The idea then is to get lots of sidespin on the serve.

Maybe someone that uses the term can set me straight. 


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Ji-Soo Woo

Ji-Soo Woo Posted 16 years ago

Back when I used to be a decent player in the mid 80s I played in a tournament against this guy who had the most impressive serve I have ever seen.  Interestingly he only seemed to serve this serve exactly ONCE a match (not even once a set).  I can't remember what his service motion looked like but it started off like a very spinny and slow backspun ball.  Then, as it crossed the net, it mysteriously became a fast topspin.  It completely aced me.  I didn't even get a racquet on it.  He won our match and I watched him play the next round, and he repeated the same serve and aced his next opponent as well!  When I described this serve on oneofakindtrading.com forum people were saying this was a 'corkscrew serve' - hence my question.


Gerard McCarthy Unknown

Gerard McCarthy Unknown Posted 16 years ago

For the distinction between corkscrew and sidespin see USATT Certified National Coach Larry Hodges article "EVERYTHING YOU EVER WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT SPIN" which is reproduced at http://masatenisi.org/english/spin.htm To get a better idea about generating spins on serves, hold a globe in front of you with Africa facing towards you. To get pure top spin the bat should brush from Zambia to Sudan or from South Africa to Zambia or from Chad to Libya or from Greece to Finland. To get pure backspin spin the bat should brush from Zambia to South Africa or from Queen Maud Land on the edge of Antartica nearest Africa towards the Ross Sea or from the Ross Sea up towards Cook Island (with the forwards movement of the bat dragging the ball forwards at the same time). To get pure side spin brush along the equator from Ascension Islands to Peru or from Gabon to Brazil; or in the reverse direction from Tanzania to the SeyChelles or Kenya to Indonesia. To get pure corkscrew spin brush from Argentinia to Bolivia or from Western Australia to Indonesia. However this does rely on the forwards movement of the bat dragging the ball forwards at the same time. In practice corkscrew is produced with diagonal brushing in combination with sidespin and either top spin or backspin. To get sidespin corkscrew and top spin together brush from Madagascar towards Algeria or from Namibia towards India. To get sidespin corkscrew and back spin together brush from South Sandwich Island towards the South Pole or Amsterdam Island to the South Pole or from the South Pole towards Easter Island or from the South Pole towards New Zealand.

Ji-Soo Woo

Ji-Soo Woo Posted 16 years ago

Thanks for the info and the resource Gerard!   My table tennis IQ just went up a point.

Debo :

Debo : Posted 12 years ago

Three much complicated. Thanks for the information though.

DHS Lover

DHS Lover Posted 11 years ago

What's the start and finish position too bad i can't see videos now... Please let me know how to do it... Thank you very much

Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 11 years ago

You are brushing under the ball from left to right.


DHS Lover

DHS Lover Posted 11 years ago

Just like the wobbly shot ? I often do it when i'm a beginner but it seems the ball will often go up high... So how to make the ball low ? Or my way is wrong ?

DHS Lover

DHS Lover Posted 11 years ago

Just like the wobbly shot ? I often do it when i'm a beginner but it seems the ball will often go up high... So how to make the ball low ? Or my way is wrong ?

Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 11 years ago

You need a little forward momentum as well to get the ball going forward rather than too high.


Jasper Low

Jasper Low Posted 1 week ago

Is the corkscrew serve the same thing as sidespin? I heard the sidespin serve spins the ball horizontally while the corkscrew serve spins the ball vertically. There's really not many videos online that explain this 


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 1 week ago

Yes pretty much the same just more across the bottom of the ball rather than across the back or side of the ball.


D K

D K Posted 6 days ago

Jasper is in fact right.
Sidespin is a horizontal rotation around a vertical axis.
Corkscrew spin is a "drill" spin,and rotates around the ball's flight path.
As far as serve,He Zhi Wen can perform this type of serve.
I have seen some slowmotions of him.
Notice that his ball not only curves,but it accelerates sideways,which a normal sidespin is incapable of,because a strictly pure sidespin hits the table with the top of its rotation axis.
In practise,the reasons of why sidespin balls bounce sideways on the table is that it is rarely physically possible to produce a 100% purely orthogonal rotation direction,and also a physical laws called Magnus effect. Pure sidespin would still bounce sideways,but solely due to Magnus effect. But it would also slow down in the process.
Corkscrew spin,in contrary,rotates around horizontal axis and thus the most quickly rotating part of the ball would touch the table,accelrating it in different direction.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bdt5YBY_82E
Here is the slowmotion of that serve.


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