Topspin against long chop

Table Tennis Strokes and Technique

Last updated 7 years ago

SUBHRAJYOTI BANERJEE

SUBHRAJYOTI BANERJEE Asked 7 years ago

Dear Alois,

When my opponent hits a solid chop and the ball lands at the end of my side of table, and the ball bounces at least hip high, I am facing a problem.

As because the ball is long I am getting away from the table and trying to play a vertical forehand topspin. The ball is lifting but not getting enough pace and the ball is either dropping in my court or getting the net. And if I try to play a forward topspin then it is not being lifted at all.

Hope you will understand my problem. Please tell me the solution.

Best wishes to You, Jeff and Pingskills.


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario Answered 7 years ago

Hi Subhrajyoti,

The key is to swing bigger and faster.  Don't be afraid to get the finish a long way above your head to lift the ball over the net.


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D K

D K Posted 7 years ago

I love looping such balls :D
I enjoy when I am facing another defender and looping so that the ball has heavy topspin and dips just behind the net.

This way the defending opponent is forced to counter a heavy topspin ball that dips down very quickly while the player is far from the table.


Ardak .

Ardak . Posted 7 years ago

Hi coaches! 

Not good but I can return such long chops, because against such long chops i can start with low bat closer to the floor and finish high as shown in your video "topspin against backspin". 

My problem is against short spinny chops. In this case i can  not loop,  i can not start with low bat because the ball is too close to the net. Lot of my loops go to the net. 

What do you suggest?


D K

D K Posted 7 years ago

If the chop is too short,don't try to attack it.
If it is a HIGH chop,you can try to loop it or smash it,but you must adapt the angle of the bat because of the backspin.
Against a low short chop,the best option is usually a push.
If the ball has its first bounce close to the net,but its second bounce would be behind the endline,it is possible to lift it,but it requires a good feel and a very very thin and fast stroke.


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 7 years ago

Well said DK.


D K

D K Posted 7 years ago

:OO
Thanks,Alois.

As far as dealing with a chop,I also use a fast agressive push to deal with it.


Ardak .

Ardak . Posted 7 years ago

Thank you! I usually receive low short chops by push as you said. But when it is high short chops i can not loop. Because i can not generate top spin and lift the ball. How to loop high short spinny chops?


Ardak .

Ardak . Posted 7 years ago

When i loop short high spinny chops i tried many variations. Soft contact, flat contact, open bat, not open bat, brushed with open bat, hit without brushing...  but they are not usually successful. How to loop correct?


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills Posted 7 years ago

It is an awkward ball.  You still need to go up on the ball to lift the backspin.  You need to get close to the table as well.  Make sure you don't drag the contact down as this will put the ball in the net.

We do have a couple of Premium Ask the Coach responses to this one as well for our Premium members. High backspin close to net and Smash/Topspin High Chopped Ball.


D K

D K Posted 7 years ago

From my own experience,if the ball is high and with backspin,I can usually dare doing a loop with even regularly closed bat,but I take it really at the top of the bounce or even a  bit earlier.
Or I use a backspin smash.
This stroke is most successful against a high backspin in my opinion.


SUBHRAJYOTI BANERJEE

SUBHRAJYOTI BANERJEE Posted 7 years ago

As Alois said, high short spinny chop it is really an awkward ball. You can not counter the backspin starting below hip high as the ball is short. But you have to add topspin otherwise it will go to the net.

So, in my opinion the key should be to be set the mind prepared to finish high, still getting close the table and starting from the table level.

Alois please correct me if I am wrong.



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