Reverse Backspin

Ian Costello

Ian Costello

Last updated on 21-Feb-2013 01:57:47 PM

Hi Alois,

When I try to serve a reverse pendulum side backspin serve, I always serve it with the opposite [reverse pendulum side topspin serve].

This makes me REALLY confused!

Please help!

THX,

Ian

Alois Rosario

and Alois Rosario said...

Hi Ian,

This is a common frustration.  It is difficult to get the bat into a good position to get backspin on the reverse pendulum serve.

You need to look at your bat as you are swinging through.  You can do this with the help of a video. At the point of contact the bat needs to be quite flat and coming under the ball.

As I said this is an awkward movement because it is hard to get your hand and bat into this position.  Lots of practice required on this one. 

Here's a video to answer the question...

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Paul Johnson

Paul Johnson, a premium member said...

on the 10-Nov-2011 04:28:30 AM
I would love to see a video response on this. I am voting! Others please vote for a video response, too. 
Ian Costello

Ian Costello, a premium member said...

on the 18-Nov-2011 10:15:26 AM
Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shripathi ramakrishnan

Shripathi ramakrishnan commented...

on the 29-Mar-2012 10:01:15 PM

coach alois you told us the why in this video but not the how(getting your arm around the side of the ball)


Shripathi ramakrishnan

Shripathi ramakrishnan commented...

on the 29-Mar-2012 10:01:49 PM

can you please suggest anything? i have the same problem as ian here..

 


Jeff Plumb

Jeff Plumb from PingSkills said...

on the 29-Mar-2012 10:40:01 PM

Hi Shripathi,

Try getting away from the table so you don't have the pressure of having to serve the ball. Then just experiment with getting your bat in the right position. I find this is a good way to develop a feel for the serve. See if you can replicate the action that Alois demonstrates. Remember that it takes a lot of practice to develop a good serve so don't give up too early. 


Ram Sood

Ram Sood commented...

on the 14-Apr-2012 08:13:12 PM

Whenever i try it the ball always starts rolling. Can you please give me a tip. Also is this serve any different to the inside-out serve?


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 14-Apr-2012 11:11:29 PM

Hi Ram,

If the ball is rolling you may be hitting it from too low.  Try getting your bat up higher and making contact when the ball is higher.

I don't know the inside out serve.


andrew brand

andrew brand commented...

on the 15-Apr-2012 04:21:49 AM

the inside out serve is the same serve, just another name for it.


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 15-Apr-2012 07:39:30 PM

Thanks for clearing that up Andrew.


Ram Sood

Ram Sood commented...

on the 29-Apr-2012 07:15:40 PM

the inside out serve: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXKR97DWEr0


Alois Rosario

Alois Rosario from PingSkills said...

on the 30-Apr-2012 08:51:32 AM

Yes that is definitely the Reverse Pendulum serve by another name.


Alex Thyer

Alex Thyer commented...

on the 19-May-2012 06:38:12 PM

i tried it but when i did it i just got lodes of side spin and a little top spin


Oliver Unknown

Oliver Unknown commented...

on the 21-May-2012 06:05:04 PM

But what about disguising the ball? I can NEVER disguise the reverse from the normal any tips?


Oliver Unknown

Oliver Unknown commented...

on the 21-May-2012 06:05:24 PM

ps. i really like the pingskills music


Ian Costello

Ian Costello, a premium member said...

on the 22-May-2012 09:02:08 PM

What I think is wrong was also getting the correct brushing action because now since I can get the bat to have the right angle of attack and then when I try to brush the ball, it either goes nowhere forward or the brush causes the bat to tilt and get topspin.

Also thanks for the video on how to get the bat under the ball on the contact. :]


kyungwoon kyungwoon

kyungwoon kyungwoon commented...

on the 08-Jun-2012 01:36:58 AM

Thanks.. I didn't know how to do the pendulum serve neither...


Erriza Shalahuddin

Erriza Shalahuddin commented...

on the 29-Dec-2012 03:09:40 AM

I've been training my reverse pendulum exclusively for almost a year. And without any coach to guide me, it's very difficult to learn this technique. I hope I can share some of my thoughts....

To add backspin in reverse pendulum, brushing the ball on the lower part of the ball isn't suffice. I think that the swing of reverse pendulum generally consist of 2 phases: the descending phase (where the bat swings downward) and the ascending phase (where the bat swings upward). So if I brush the ball in lower part in ascending phase, I won't produce much backspin. In the contrary, if I brush the ball in lower part in descending, I can produce more backspin.

One more thing. To put pure backspin on the ball (almost unlikely, but at least put less sidespin), try to angle the bat horizontally, and have the tip of the bat pointing sideways (body) on contact.


Justin O'Toole

Justin O'Toole commented...

on the 21-Feb-2013 01:57:47 PM

Hi fellow table tennis players. I think this sereve needs loads of practice as it is very hard to do. I am constantly trying to get this serve right but i only get 1 out of five correct. ! is very good 2 is average and my other three are rubbish so yes i have had a bit of trouble. I guess we just have to keep practicing.


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